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. >> union busting is disgusting! (laughter). >> jon: dude, you're from michigan, detroit, "8 mile." you've got to come up with better rhymes that busting-disgusting if you want to win the khraoe climactic rap. you have to put effort into it. (laughter) (cheers and applause) look, you have one job at one factory, when you seize every benefit you could, yo, our palms are sweaty, knees week, arms heavy, working in a factory all day building chevys, like the volt, you plug it in, and then you win -- ecologically, because if it was an actual race you would not -- actually. you've got to dues collect for the unions oro bahts are going to come and take away our jobs or to the chinese kids with the tiny hands to work and go -- ♪ this of ha tunety comes once in a lifetime note? note yo! (cheers and applause) you know what i realized? if i perform my hoff-torah a as bad as that i would owe my relatives money. for more we go to aasif mandvi in michigan and jason jones in indiana. there's not much kpet advantage in doing somet
. >> union busting is disgusting! (laughter). >> jon: dude, you're from michigan, detroit, "8 mile." you've got to come up with better rhymes that busting-disgusting if you want to win the khraoe climactic rap. you have to put effort into it. (laughter) (cheers and applause) look, you have one job at one factory, when you seize every benefit you could, yo, our palms are sweaty, knees week, arms heavy, working in a factory all day building chevys, like the volt, you plug it...
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i'm a union man and i know charlie is very fondf unions. we love unions, but we want people to have the right to choose whether or not they belong to a unn. a clothes shop wherehey have to have the union and i don't think that's freedom, if you want to join the union by all means, but to make it mandatory, that seems a bit harsh. >> neil: but the unions are spinning it the other way in michigan, charles, what do you ke of that? >> and ben makes the great point. the unions feel like their back has been against the walls and have for a number of years. in michigan, this is the way we can be competitive. liste everyone talks about the great comeback in detroit in the auto sector, that's a mirage. michigan's in trouble, detroit is in trouble and this is how they compete on the national scale, ultimately, a global scale. >> neil: dagen? >> versignificant that this is happening and by the way, this is just the right to not have toay union dues i you don't want to belong to a union first and foremost. >> neil: and you got that. >> very significant
i'm a union man and i know charlie is very fondf unions. we love unions, but we want people to have the right to choose whether or not they belong to a unn. a clothes shop wherehey have to have the union and i don't think that's freedom, if you want to join the union by all means, but to make it mandatory, that seems a bit harsh. >> neil: but the unions are spinning it the other way in michigan, charles, what do you ke of that? >> and ben makes the great point. the unions feel like...
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on the union level, unions have got to start organizing the unorganized. too many years were spent just focusing on their own numbers. that's why you know this in michigan there's this weird divide between union members and non-union members. the non-union members are making less, but they don't see when the unions do well, they do well. european unions after world war ii, here is what they did differently. they decided not to just work for their own members. they wanted societal change so the reason why you have universal free healthcare throughout all of europe is because the european unions in the 40s said we don't want this just for our members, we want this for everybody. everybody has got to have -- >> jennifer: which is really the history of the u.s. labor movement was too. that's what those laws were in the 20s and 30s to provide universal 40-hour workweek and we don't have child labor laws. that's true. i would say unions have an opportunity globally especially in countries that are now growing, like china to be able to level the playing field a l
on the union level, unions have got to start organizing the unorganized. too many years were spent just focusing on their own numbers. that's why you know this in michigan there's this weird divide between union members and non-union members. the non-union members are making less, but they don't see when the unions do well, they do well. european unions after world war ii, here is what they did differently. they decided not to just work for their own members. they wanted societal change so the...
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but jonas it right, a lot of tiesike detroit are heavily unionized. they invested heavily in these gold-plated cadillac-like government pensions as the revenues have dropped off and diminishednd detroit is a great example, people leaving the cityow for decades. they find they can't pay these pensions. so in a nutshell,hey mismanaged their money and now they're coming-- don't blame the council woman they did help to get president obama elected. look, we did youolid and unfortunately it's not the right way to go, i d't think anyone wants to bail out detroit for mismanagement. >> brenda: julian, what say you. >> i think we have to define the terms, quid pro quo and bailout are unfortunate terms. i think that jas made the rit point. you have to separate long-term and short-term issues. long-term, the same way that the government reformed entitlement, the state has to reform pension programs. and many states and governments are doing that. in the short-term, however, it's another question when you're in an economically very difficult time, if the states an
but jonas it right, a lot of tiesike detroit are heavily unionized. they invested heavily in these gold-plated cadillac-like government pensions as the revenues have dropped off and diminishednd detroit is a great example, people leaving the cityow for decades. they find they can't pay these pensions. so in a nutshell,hey mismanaged their money and now they're coming-- don't blame the council woman they did help to get president obama elected. look, we did youolid and unfortunately it's not the...
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it strikes me as what happened with the sale of state ies inrises and companiy the soviet union. how do we make sure we are not taken in these public-private partnerships and are not giving a monopoly power for something that perhaps should be provided as a government service? >> one of the problems we have with the weather service right now is the fact that they have not been able to fly their new modern satellites. we risk a lot of the label information going forward because the government has not been capable of moving forward. -- delay of information going forward because the government has not been capable of moving forward. there are a number of ways that you can write bills to ensure that kind of activity, as i mentioned before, you can do it through a mechanism where the federal government remains actively involved in how these companies are doing their job, and provides an annual stream of funding. there are ways of structuring this that would assure the public interest is still maintained. >> the chair recognizes the gentleman from california, mr. rabat. >> let me echo
it strikes me as what happened with the sale of state ies inrises and companiy the soviet union. how do we make sure we are not taken in these public-private partnerships and are not giving a monopoly power for something that perhaps should be provided as a government service? >> one of the problems we have with the weather service right now is the fact that they have not been able to fly their new modern satellites. we risk a lot of the label information going forward because the...
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i'm candy crowley from cnn state of the union. [ applause ] welcome to the second presidential debate. tonight's debate is a town hall, and our audience is 82 undecided
i'm candy crowley from cnn state of the union. [ applause ] welcome to the second presidential debate. tonight's debate is a town hall, and our audience is 82 undecided
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when the bill becomes law, unions will have the right to make their case. now workers will have the right to make their decision. >> can i switch gears briefly on the question of detroit city, its terrible finances, the likelihood that it's going into bankruptcy, some of the local politicians asked president obama to bail out detroit city. do you think a bail out like that's coming? >> i think we need detroit to accept responsibility. we need a healthy detroit. in michigan we want a healthy detroit. we need detroiters to accept responsibility. they are free to ask the president for more money. i can tell you there will not be more money coming from lansing. we need to get detroit fixed and move forward together. >> apparently mayor dave bing, the former basketball great and a good businessman before he was mayor says, and i will quote -- he blames the culture of victimization and entitlement for detroit's woes. i can write that large for the entire usa budget deficit but let's stick to detroit. is the mayor correct? >> i will leave mayor bing to stand for h
when the bill becomes law, unions will have the right to make their case. now workers will have the right to make their decision. >> can i switch gears briefly on the question of detroit city, its terrible finances, the likelihood that it's going into bankruptcy, some of the local politicians asked president obama to bail out detroit city. do you think a bail out like that's coming? >> i think we need detroit to accept responsibility. we need a healthy detroit. in michigan we want a...
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you are in terms of are you more with team whitney who saying they're still going to be more pain in union land they're going to be more defaults more disasters this is not going to end well or are you more in the camp of those say i'll say the david kotok camp who is someone that's been on our show who says whitney was dead wrong ok the key in the land is to do your homework and just avoid the trouble spots that i mean it's a lot of municipal bond in a list that analyzes many many credits at the individual level and then you have the rating agencies and all these folks you know generally feel the land is pretty strong we have weak spots california as you said they've had some structural revenue problems there and there's harrisburg pennsylvania that will probably file in the next month or so detroit is the very big one but for the most part u.s. credits are strong and the yields in the municipal market are at historic lows we have massive demand so generally it's a strong bright picture but there are these kind of dark spots that are isolated but it doesn't equal what meredith whitney bel
you are in terms of are you more with team whitney who saying they're still going to be more pain in union land they're going to be more defaults more disasters this is not going to end well or are you more in the camp of those say i'll say the david kotok camp who is someone that's been on our show who says whitney was dead wrong ok the key in the land is to do your homework and just avoid the trouble spots that i mean it's a lot of municipal bond in a list that analyzes many many credits at...
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so, this creates an environment where people can say, they are choosing to join a union because the unions put a value proposition to make it worthwhile and if they are not providing value someone should be forced to choose so i view this as pro worker legislation. >>neil: governor, this woman's remarks went viral soon after she said them, a council woman in detroit talking about the post obama election envice president, i am sure you are familiar, but if you are not, please respond to this. >> after the election of jimmy carter, we had young and he went to washington, dc and he came back home with some bacon. young did. that is what you do. that is what you do. our people in an overwhelmingly matter supported the re-election of this president and there ought be to a quid pro quo and we ought to exercise leadership on that. not just that, but why not? >>neil: what do you thing 1/2? >>guest: it is unfortunate. that is one council woman's comments. a challenge in detroit the city council and the mayor have not been on the same page. they are running out of time. they have been in a financial
so, this creates an environment where people can say, they are choosing to join a union because the unions put a value proposition to make it worthwhile and if they are not providing value someone should be forced to choose so i view this as pro worker legislation. >>neil: governor, this woman's remarks went viral soon after she said them, a council woman in detroit talking about the post obama election envice president, i am sure you are familiar, but if you are not, please respond to...
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in a good union maybe 60%, 70% of the workers will voluntarily give dues to the union. that's in a union shop where they're very active. that's in most right-to-work states. so i think what you're going to see in michigan as you look at the uaw it has 150,000 members in michigan. i think they're going to lose about 50,000 members. i mean my best-case scenario, what that translates to is a loss of $30 to $40 million a year in dus revenue. it hurts the ability of the uaw to do things and is losing $30 to $40 million they'll be spending tens of millions to refill this later. >> eliot: one of the things that mystified me about the bill signed into law today why are cops and firefighters excluded. why is this good for workers? did he carve out the two unions that are friendlier to the republican party than any other? >> yeah, i mean cops and firefighters unions tend to be friendlier to the republican party. the police union i endorsed bush several times. cops and firefighters tend to be friendlier to republicans although many of them are solid democrats as well. so i think t
in a good union maybe 60%, 70% of the workers will voluntarily give dues to the union. that's in a union shop where they're very active. that's in most right-to-work states. so i think what you're going to see in michigan as you look at the uaw it has 150,000 members in michigan. i think they're going to lose about 50,000 members. i mean my best-case scenario, what that translates to is a loss of $30 to $40 million a year in dus revenue. it hurts the ability of the uaw to do things and is...
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the heads of the league and players union will not be there. the hope is that cutting them out will help both sides reach a deal. it comes four days after federal mediation reveals. >>> muni is considering controversial change when it comes to to their fair rates. coming up we'll tell you how muni could be charging passengers based on their income and why other agencies could follow that plan. >>> making good on a world series bet. detroit's mayor is in san francisco today. what he's doing because the giant's sweep of the tigers. >>> they must have had a bright light shining down on them. >> a large tree crushes a car. how firefighters rescued a young couple inside. >>> authorities say the 100 foot tree fell just moments after the couple parked outside of a home yesterday afternoon. firefighters were able to rescue the couple from the crushed car by pulling them outside of a passenger side window. they were shaken up but not seriously injured. >> they must have had a bright light shining down on them. if you look at the passenger compartment th
the heads of the league and players union will not be there. the hope is that cutting them out will help both sides reach a deal. it comes four days after federal mediation reveals. >>> muni is considering controversial change when it comes to to their fair rates. coming up we'll tell you how muni could be charging passengers based on their income and why other agencies could follow that plan. >>> making good on a world series bet. detroit's mayor is in san francisco today....
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this is pure and simple union busting. these right to work laws have already had serious impacts across the country. wages for all workers, unionized and otherwise have decreased an average of $1,500 a year and workers are less likely to get health insurance or pensions. during the campaign any president voiced strong support the unions but as we know campaigning a very different from governing. things didn't look too promising this morning. so let's let the president speak for himself on this one. here he is in red ford, michigan late this afternoon. >> obama: what we shouldn't be doing is taking away your rights to bargain for better wages. these so-called right to work laws have everything to do with politics. >> nice work mr. president, reelection beginning to look good on you. and michigan's workers are forging ahead. tomorrow thousands of protesters are set to desecond on the capitol of lancing. two school districts have canceled classes because of these protests. today we got a preview. members of the nurse's union
this is pure and simple union busting. these right to work laws have already had serious impacts across the country. wages for all workers, unionized and otherwise have decreased an average of $1,500 a year and workers are less likely to get health insurance or pensions. during the campaign any president voiced strong support the unions but as we know campaigning a very different from governing. things didn't look too promising this morning. so let's let the president speak for himself on this...
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right to work does not ban unions. it makes them stronger because now the union has to be accountable to their members and cannot take them for granted. gerri: i am sure many union members agree with you. we need some control and level playing field for workers. thank you for coming on. if you get some kind of movement on that night, please let us know. we would love to report it. thank you for coming on and showing us these numbers. it's just amazing. thank you. joining me now, is jerry brown. welcome to the show. it is great to have you. we played this very controversial soundbite from this woman who said it should be quid pro quo for detroit. do you agree? >> no, i do not agree. i can look out my window and see general motors and see what happened with the bankruptcy when the federal government got involved. the cfo lost their jobs from the board of directors lost their jobs, and there are restrictions to the money coming in. so the federal government. the city of detroit knows what the problems are. the question is
right to work does not ban unions. it makes them stronger because now the union has to be accountable to their members and cannot take them for granted. gerri: i am sure many union members agree with you. we need some control and level playing field for workers. thank you for coming on. if you get some kind of movement on that night, please let us know. we would love to report it. thank you for coming on and showing us these numbers. it's just amazing. thank you. joining me now, is jerry brown....
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. >> just an hour after nicki's arrest, blocks away, police find the union of drugs and prostitution on full display. >> 115, right? >> where are your clothes at? 33-year-old holly is no stranger to the game. >> what's going on? >> a resident of ohio, she's been in michigan for a month staying at various motels and posting online ads for sex. a quick serve of her room turns up condoms, $259 in cash, and dozens of used syringes. >> what do you use the needle for? are you diabetic or using it for other purposes? >> how many packs do you shoot a day? >> barely anything. >> you don't have any with you? >> no, no drugs, just needles. >> you have to have something here. a thorough search yielded no drugs tonight, but they think holly's supplier may also be her pimp. >> he is probably out here somewhere. >> you have pimps that will use drugs to control the girls quite a bit. they will supply her, get her hooks on heroin, cocaine, or crack, and at that point, that girl is dependent on that drug. it's like a vicious cycle where the girl is hooked, she needs the drugs, and the pimp say dos thi
. >> just an hour after nicki's arrest, blocks away, police find the union of drugs and prostitution on full display. >> 115, right? >> where are your clothes at? 33-year-old holly is no stranger to the game. >> what's going on? >> a resident of ohio, she's been in michigan for a month staying at various motels and posting online ads for sex. a quick serve of her room turns up condoms, $259 in cash, and dozens of used syringes. >> what do you use the needle...
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much more benefits for workers higher pay on average less work related deaths and union states it's not that hard to grasp moving on to you tube my. two hands twenty one that's a doozy said abby you don't want israel to be used as an involuntary organ donor i agree with you man don't worry i don't think i'll be going to israel anytime soon and another from you tube andrew rusher says i like the martin and agree with most of her things but she's a bit of a man hater. actually i love men and some of you should start looking in the mirror and asking yourselves why a strong woman i'm asking relates you so much finally my favorite comment comes from commander zero on you tube you says that the zombie apocalypse ever comes she'll be the one i want to have by my side why thanks to i'm right here to stab zombies in the brain if push comes to shove i have my samurai sword by my bedside of all that's all i got guys thanks for listening to the good the bad and the strange have a great night will see you tomorrow. she good leverage sure kirby was able to build a most sophisticated robot which f
much more benefits for workers higher pay on average less work related deaths and union states it's not that hard to grasp moving on to you tube my. two hands twenty one that's a doozy said abby you don't want israel to be used as an involuntary organ donor i agree with you man don't worry i don't think i'll be going to israel anytime soon and another from you tube andrew rusher says i like the martin and agree with most of her things but she's a bit of a man hater. actually i love men and some...
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the bill has caused quite an uproar with union workers who say union rights are now at risk. ballet between labor and business could hit the auto industry especially hard. the governor says the bill promotes work equality. >>> mohammed morsi said he would not tolerate anyone trying to overthrow what he calls his legitimate government but the protestors say they'll continue. seven people are dead after violent clash this is week. >>> and historic visit by the leader of hamas to gaza tbeen e years. his party has been in control of the gaza strip for five years and he is arriving to mark the 25th anniversary of hamas' founding. >>> software mowing up john mcafee is back in jill after a brief trip to the hospital. he told the associated press he suffered chest pains but didn't believe he had a heart attack. this happened yesterday just hours after guatemalan officials rejected his bid for asylum. he was arrested for illegally entering the country on wednesday after weeks in hiding. he is a person of interest in the november killing of his american neighbor in belize. >>> a messag
the bill has caused quite an uproar with union workers who say union rights are now at risk. ballet between labor and business could hit the auto industry especially hard. the governor says the bill promotes work equality. >>> mohammed morsi said he would not tolerate anyone trying to overthrow what he calls his legitimate government but the protestors say they'll continue. seven people are dead after violent clash this is week. >>> and historic visit by the leader of hamas to...
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can it do to unions? the law probably strengthens unions. >> if this is a right to work state, it makes it illegal for unions and employers to man tateidate that employees be part of the union or pay money to that union. >> or destroy when they have to stay afloat. one or the other. >> kagy gray is the reporter for the detroit free press and joins us now. this happened very quickly. it looks like we have not seen the end of this fight. democrats and union activists and anybody who supports the unions about finding a way to overturn this. they have three options and is to pursue a legal challenge to how the law was passed in the legislature. the second involves beating sick snyder, the governor's race that requires them to win both houses. it looks like a long shot that looks like the boast bankable bet to collect signatures equivalent to 8% to the total number of votes cast. that means 258,000 signatures. then they can get a referendum on this. is that the best bet for people to overturn this? >> it's sti
can it do to unions? the law probably strengthens unions. >> if this is a right to work state, it makes it illegal for unions and employers to man tateidate that employees be part of the union or pay money to that union. >> or destroy when they have to stay afloat. one or the other. >> kagy gray is the reporter for the detroit free press and joins us now. this happened very quickly. it looks like we have not seen the end of this fight. democrats and union activists and anybody...
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the workplace you can force the union to defend you spend resources you can actually burn out a union by demanding that they constantly do things for you and yet you can choose not to pay for it do you think that if if i wanted to be a member my little company want to be a member of the chamber of commerce that i should be able to go to them and say i want all the benefits of being a member of the chamber of commerce but i don't think i want to pay the dues right yeah i mean that should be probably something that gets resolved in the law i mean maybe they need to go further and as the essence of right to work is you don't anybody and put it in place where you get into a position where you if you seek union representation i believe you have to begin paying to know you know ok well then that is the law in all going to law states that say that support the concept should be and i believe if you choose not to be a part of the union expect not to have the union services that your behalf but that's not i think that's a reasonable yeah but on the on the flip side of this equation and this is
the workplace you can force the union to defend you spend resources you can actually burn out a union by demanding that they constantly do things for you and yet you can choose not to pay for it do you think that if if i wanted to be a member my little company want to be a member of the chamber of commerce that i should be able to go to them and say i want all the benefits of being a member of the chamber of commerce but i don't think i want to pay the dues right yeah i mean that should be...
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michigan's governor driving the motor city in to a fight over the unions. why's the president playing backseat driver? >>> i'm steve kornacki. there's outrage maybe even criminal charges coming in that death of the nurse in england. wait a minute. are we being too hard on the pranksters? >> i'm krystal ball. in to the holiday spiritual. our friend is back at the table with tips to dare we say it enjoy the season? >>> all and that a federal case of it. why when it comes to gay marriage the train can't be stop. neither can we. it's "the cycle" and it's monday, december 10th. >>> it's monday, fun day here at "the cycle." let's get the party started. where will it land today? fiscal cliff? huh. so much for fun. well you know what? we at "the cycle" can make it fun. look at this. the president living it up in motown last hour calling on republicans to stop being party poopers. >> i believe america only succeeds and thrives when we've got a strong and growing middle class. i want us to bring down our deficits but i want to do it in a balanced, responsible way. an
michigan's governor driving the motor city in to a fight over the unions. why's the president playing backseat driver? >>> i'm steve kornacki. there's outrage maybe even criminal charges coming in that death of the nurse in england. wait a minute. are we being too hard on the pranksters? >> i'm krystal ball. in to the holiday spiritual. our friend is back at the table with tips to dare we say it enjoy the season? >>> all and that a federal case of it. why when it comes...
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the bill strips unions of power in the state. tomorrow protesters are planning to invade the state capital in lansing. that's where we find dave spencer with an update. dave? >> state police are estimating 10,000 protesters when the sun comes up. they've closed streets out around the capitol, restricting park around here. some of the schools in metro detroit will be closing so that teachers representing the teacher union will have a chance to come down to lansing to be one of those 10,000 having their voices heard. what the right to work bill will do will essentially make it an option for an employee to join a union and still get those benefits. supporters say that will be good for michigan, bringing in business, while opponents say while it may bring in business employee wages will be brought down due to collective bargaining. this controversy started when the governor, governor rick snyder, said for a bill comes across his desk, he will sign it. that prompted the house and senate to begin their legislation, bringing out protest
the bill strips unions of power in the state. tomorrow protesters are planning to invade the state capital in lansing. that's where we find dave spencer with an update. dave? >> state police are estimating 10,000 protesters when the sun comes up. they've closed streets out around the capitol, restricting park around here. some of the schools in metro detroit will be closing so that teachers representing the teacher union will have a chance to come down to lansing to be one of those 10,000...
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enforced union states down 3.4%. that is a significant statement when it comes to right-to-work states in this country. >> it sure is. the real bottom line to it is people are voting with their feet. since 1990s -- since 1990 every time we've reapportioned the united states house of representatives, the right-to-work states have gained eight to nine representatives while the forced unionism states have lost eight to nine. the difference since 1990 has been 25 seats going from the forced unionism states to the right-to-work states. people are voting with their feet. people don't want to be forced into unionism, they don't want to have a pay a union to keep their jobs. lou: and the fact of the matter is that a heritage study shows a quarter of union members would stop paying dues if they could. they're being begin thaa opportunity under legislation. as we reported, 22 states considering it this year, four of them actually got it done including now most recently, of course, the state of michigan. how powerful is this mo
enforced union states down 3.4%. that is a significant statement when it comes to right-to-work states in this country. >> it sure is. the real bottom line to it is people are voting with their feet. since 1990s -- since 1990 every time we've reapportioned the united states house of representatives, the right-to-work states have gained eight to nine representatives while the forced unionism states have lost eight to nine. the difference since 1990 has been 25 seats going from the forced...
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back was broken by a bunch of thug cops who hated unions. now, all i want to say to those guys there are a lot of you out there who have done remarkable work for the workers in the country. do not take what you heard here. it's not people who understand all your history. there is no reason to have to. >> greg: you can bring that up to negate any criticism of the union to commit violence against innocent people. well done. >> eric: we have to go. that is if it for "the five." thank you for watching. >> dana: on that note. >> greg: unbelievable. >> bret: good evening. i'm bret baier. this is a fox news alert. tonight, michigan, the home of the american automobile industry, state that has been dominated by big labor unions, is now a right to work state. michigan's republican governor has just signed a bill in to law ending union ability to force workers to pay dues. february they are not in the union. democrats are predicting a warning of blood in the streets. here is what the governor said moments ago about why he supported the legislation. >>
back was broken by a bunch of thug cops who hated unions. now, all i want to say to those guys there are a lot of you out there who have done remarkable work for the workers in the country. do not take what you heard here. it's not people who understand all your history. there is no reason to have to. >> greg: you can bring that up to negate any criticism of the union to commit violence against innocent people. well done. >> eric: we have to go. that is if it for "the...
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this is about the relationship between unions and workers. >> if enough workers opt out of the unions the union's bargaining power goes down it's weaker. that's what mr. obama is trying to it say. why is to the state's advantage very specifically. why is it to the state's advantage to have a right-to-work law to give workers the option of going into a union or not? >> well, they both go together. if you step back at your comment it is important to recognize that unions could be weaker but why would they be weaker? it's because they are not showing value to the workers. this is very much about two there are two reasons to do this. the first one is to be pro-worker. this is about freedom to choose. workers should have the option if they are seeing value, they should be excited to join a union and they should join. if they see no value why should they put financial resources to do something that has no value to them. that's a big part of it. standing up for workers. the second piece and to your point specifically, it's about more and better jobs for michigan. just look at indiana that di
this is about the relationship between unions and workers. >> if enough workers opt out of the unions the union's bargaining power goes down it's weaker. that's what mr. obama is trying to it say. why is to the state's advantage very specifically. why is it to the state's advantage to have a right-to-work law to give workers the option of going into a union or not? >> well, they both go together. if you step back at your comment it is important to recognize that unions could be...
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i don't view it as anti-union. they are more proactive to presenting it to workers and say they should want to join it be part of it. this is first and foremost about worker choice. and second thing it is about economic development. we've watched what has gone on in indiana since they passed similar legislation and they have seen a significant increase in the numbers of companies talking about thousands of jobs to their state. first about workers choice but more about more and better jobs for our people. it's positive legislation for the state. >> it was not parts of your original aany da and it's being done in the lame duck. i suppose that's an issue that -- that the people are asking for, why wasn't it part of your original agenda and why did you wait for the lame duck? >> if you think about it, over 80% of workers don't have this issue. they aren't unionized so it applies in michigan to about 17.5% of our workforce. that's significant but most people don't have it as an issue. if you look where michigan was at,
i don't view it as anti-union. they are more proactive to presenting it to workers and say they should want to join it be part of it. this is first and foremost about worker choice. and second thing it is about economic development. we've watched what has gone on in indiana since they passed similar legislation and they have seen a significant increase in the numbers of companies talking about thousands of jobs to their state. first about workers choice but more about more and better jobs for...
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because of the union contract. only because of the union contracts. >> bob: c'mon, bob. you can find a video like this. >> bob: i can find it in every right to work state in the south lunch break. >> eric: they'd get fired. >> kimberly: they're not from texas. >> bob: they don't get fired in the south? >> eric: chrysler said we don't like to decision. we would have fired them but they can't. >> kimberly: they have protection. bostonright to work means whoever is not a union member gets the sweat they put in to it to get the good jobs. they're scabs because they don't put in the union political fund. >> dana: 24 states have lower unemployment rate and other states are not right to work, while shouldn't michigan, at least they have a democratic process. it's passed. the governor has been thoughtful about it. people, majority of people support it. why not let them try something that would alter history? >> kimberly: why not? >> bob: why not bad handguns in countries that don't have murder. here we ban them and it -- >> greg: the funny thing is we talk about greece, but befo
because of the union contract. only because of the union contracts. >> bob: c'mon, bob. you can find a video like this. >> bob: i can find it in every right to work state in the south lunch break. >> eric: they'd get fired. >> kimberly: they're not from texas. >> bob: they don't get fired in the south? >> eric: chrysler said we don't like to decision. we would have fired them but they can't. >> kimberly: they have protection. bostonright to work means...